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Title: BC Skiing near 108
Post by: hyster350 on December 17, 2019, 12:38:26 PM
Hi, where do you guys recommend backcountry skiing? I do not have a snowmobile but I don’t mind spending a night in the backcountry.  In the past I have skied the South and West side of Burst rock area and from there I have skied the bowl (South side of 4N34) that goes down near the Crabtree Trailhead area.  I have skied the Sonora pass and Leavitte Peak area and Burnt Bowl area from near Aspen Meadows pack station.   
Is there any skiing in the Herring Creek Dome/Pinecrest Peak area or Cooper Peak area?
Are there any routes to ski off the North side of 4N34 (the ridge trail that goes from top of Dodge out to Gianelli Trailhead) that will take me back to the bottom of chair 8 at Dodge?
Is there anything worth skiing in the Strawberry area or in the in the Emigrant Wilderness?

Thanks

Mark
Title: Re: BC Skiing near 108
Post by: Mungeclimber on December 18, 2019, 10:16:14 PM
Hi Mark,
There's probably only a couple of us doing any skiing/skinning, and I've been riding the sled lately more than anything.

Not sure if Duncan and Shanna will see this just yet, but they've ski'd off Pinecrest Peak taking different lines from the look out area above Herring Creek Dome. Putting in from the Lake, taking the line to that mini lake then east ward skinning up, iirc.

Talked to a riding friend who has actually ridden off Herring Creek Dome. I'd be nervous about avy off those slabs.

More of a skin up and mellow terrain, is from areas past Strawberry on 108, east of the hwy. Look for the big pull out on the left for the parking. Sometimes the snow plow berm has to be chopped so you can get on top of it. Nothing steep. But that was a worthy few hours one afternoon for me.

I have seen one guy taking the FS roads out from Cow Creek quite a ways. May have been just a skin up and out for a work out rather than good turns.

I've skinned up Gooseberry road to backside of Dodge. That's a cool way to get some runs. But for more quiet the Burst Rock area, like you saw, is good. The snow machinas avoid that area. Spring skiing of course is the ticket up at the Pass.

Hope that helps a little,
Rob
Title: Re: BC Skiing near 108
Post by: hyster350 on December 19, 2019, 05:06:34 PM
Thank you Rob.  Looking at Caltopo, from Cow Creek the bowl to the South(Punch Bowl) looks good and it looks like there might be some descent mellow skiing off the South side of the ridge that Bull Run Rock is on.  I am going to go check that area out.

Thank you,

Mark
Title: Re: BC Skiing near 108
Post by: duncan on December 20, 2019, 02:14:29 PM
Hey Mark - I'm excited to see some more human powered skiing on the pass!

We've done a rambling tour from Leland Meadows towards Pinecrest Peak. It's a bit rolling but it's a good option when Herring Creek road is closed. The descent gully for HCD holds snow and is a fun little spot.

We've also done some quirky tours from Dodge Ridge down to Cleo's Bath. Not sure I'd recommend that one :)

I've been very curious about exploring the 2018 Donnell burn. The challenge when accessing the pass without a snowmobile is getting high enough to get out of thick trees... the burn may be one good way to get into more open terrain closer to the sno-park.

I'd also be curious to check out Cooper Peak and Castle Rock.  We did a nice little bike loop off Herring Creek Road on 4N12 this fall.  Overnighting off 4N12 could be a fun way to check out that zone.

Keep us posted on what you find!
Title: Re: BC Skiing near 108
Post by: hyster350 on April 06, 2020, 04:49:20 PM
Attached are the backcountry lines I skied or looked at skiing between the top of Dodge and Burst Rock.  Are these the lines you guys are skiing? Is there anything wroth skiing out of the summer Crabtree trailhead or anything else on this side of the Emigrant Wilderness worth skiing?

Duncan
When you ski the Herring Creek Dome area where do you park? I also attached a map with the lines I am looking at skiing out of the Leland area, the lines in red are my planned skinning lines. Do you have any recommendation on which of these lines I should ski or are there lines that I dont have marked that you recommend?

Rob,
The area you mentioned skiing East of Strawberry is it near Pikes Peak?  If not can you send me the coordinates or let me what the nearest forest service road to the turnout you are talking about?

Thank you,

Mark
Title: Re: BC Skiing near 108
Post by: Mungeclimber on April 07, 2020, 01:50:28 PM
Yep, didn't realize the name, but found it on another map. But yeah. The pull out is at the turn off for FS road 5n32. Mellow skin up and out. Some boulders along the way that looked interesting.
Title: Re: BC Skiing near 108
Post by: Mungeclimber on April 07, 2020, 01:52:53 PM
oh, and also, I think Team Duncan goes up from Pinecrest Lake side.
Title: Re: BC Skiing near 108
Post by: hyster350 on April 13, 2020, 07:59:33 PM
Thank you for the information.

Mark
Title: Re: BC Skiing near 108
Post by: hyster350 on April 27, 2020, 02:29:00 PM
Hi Rob,

Do you have any experience skiing the Bald Peak area off of Clark Fork Road or Night Cap Peak climbing out of Kennedy Meadows?

Is there anything else in these areas worth skiing?

Thank you,

Mark
Title: Re: BC Skiing near 108
Post by: Mungeclimber on April 28, 2020, 06:19:16 AM
I haven’t yet. I started looking at that area with a map a lot closer last couple years tho. Kind of an untapped adventure zone.
Title: Re: BC Skiing near 108
Post by: hyster350 on May 04, 2020, 07:00:31 PM
Thanks Rob,
I explored the Clark Fork area.  From the end of Clark Fork Road the trail goes just about to the base of Stanislaus Peak.  There is good snow coverage on North facing slopes and the snow is not suncupped.
Title: Re: BC Skiing near 108
Post by: Mungeclimber on May 04, 2020, 07:39:31 PM
Good on ya!!
Title: Re: BC Skiing near 108
Post by: hyster350 on May 13, 2020, 12:34:14 PM
Hi Rob,

I am planning on skiing Night Cap Peak area Saturday; either climbing out of Kennedy Meadows or bicycling up the highway to near Chipmonk Flat then climbing up from there. Is it legal to bicycle on 108 past the closure gate? Do you know of anyone that might be interested in skiing this area with me?
Title: Re: BC Skiing near 108
Post by: Mungeclimber on May 14, 2020, 06:39:57 AM
The hwy and forest generally aren’t restricted. I would not hesitate to ride bike up the hwy if interested. I’m still out but sounds like an awesome trip!
Title: Re: BC Skiing near 108
Post by: Mungeclimber on May 25, 2020, 10:05:59 PM
Best to launch from the Pass proper. The big sugar pine parking west of the Pass had sections of open meadow.

Boarder and a couple skiers got hitch rides back to the Pass in the back of my pick up yesterday. So the run down to blue canyon must be rideable.
Title: Re: BC Skiing near 108
Post by: hyster350 on May 26, 2020, 08:43:45 PM
Hi Rob,

Thanks for all the backcountry skiing information this season.   Sunday a friend and I skied Leavitt Peak and we skied down Blue Canyon to 108.  We started walking up the highway to the pass then a guy and lady in a Toyota truck picked us up and gave us a ride to the pass.  If you know them please tell them we are very thankful for the ride.

The Blue Canyon was ski able just about all the way to 108, there was one spot where we had to take our skis off.  Next weekend there probably wont be enough snow to ski the lower sections.

I also skied No Name Peak and a chute off the McKay Creek near Sardine Falls.

Mark
Title: Re: BC Skiing near 108
Post by: Mungeclimber on May 27, 2020, 07:51:39 AM
Mark!
That’s hilarious! That was me and my spouse. LOL
Didn’t occur to me ask about the forum. Lol
Which one were you? :)
Rob
Title: Re: BC Skiing near 108
Post by: hyster350 on May 27, 2020, 08:53:51 AM
Younger one, red ski boots.

Thanks for the ride.

Mark
Title: Re: BC Skiing near 108
Post by: Mungeclimber on May 27, 2020, 10:14:04 AM
No prob. Glad you got that ride into blue done! I haven't done that and since I've been running the sled whenever there is coverage its been hard to set the time aside to go up that way. Snow is melting fast now.



Title: Re: BC Skiing near 108
Post by: BoKu on May 27, 2020, 06:55:37 PM
Small world! Mark is an old friend from the aviation world.
Title: Re: BC Skiing near 108
Post by: hyster350 on May 27, 2020, 10:19:18 PM
Hi Bob!

Rob, I am thinking of going rock climbing after work Friday.  Are you available/interested in climbing with me or know of someone going climbing that wouldn't mind me tagging along?

Mark
Title: Re: BC Skiing near 108
Post by: Mungeclimber on May 28, 2020, 06:24:40 AM
Ordinarily I would! Unfortunately I’m working on what I think is lateral epicondylitis on the right elbow. So I’m useless to even belay for a couple more weeks. I can hike and point out features/routes?! Lol
Title: Re: BC Skiing near 108
Post by: hyster350 on May 28, 2020, 07:10:54 AM
That works. I have only climbed at the Gianelli Edges and I am not familiar with any of the other climbing spots.  I can head out of Twain Harte anytime after 4pm tomorrow.  Let me know where and when you would like to meet.
Title: Re: BC Skiing near 108
Post by: Mungeclimber on May 28, 2020, 07:35:42 AM
I'll probably be free about then. Sending digits in pm message...
Title: Re: BC Skiing near 108
Post by: hyster350 on June 01, 2020, 11:04:43 AM
Here are a few skiing videos from this season:
https://youtu.be/Wpg0FJHzzq4
https://youtu.be/FMoPWDkwDIs
https://youtu.be/fAuy_K5YxeM
Title: Re: BC Skiing near 108
Post by: Mungeclimber on June 01, 2020, 11:29:31 AM
Sweet!